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Well be careful with manufacturers claimed weights as they’ve figured out that low weights sell campers - lol..Manufacturer’s weights don’t include options, batteries, water weight (and 6gal in water heater - 8.33# per/gal), LPG, and occasionally even slide-outs and jacks are sometimes called ‘options’…Also passengers, tie-down equip, fuel, 4x4, diesel engines, personal items and trailer tongue weight (and extensions if used) subtract from maximum available GVWR…

However, FWIW, I carried a large single slide Eagle Cap on a Ram 3500, 4x4, diesel, CC, LB without any issues…

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joebedford wrote:

The sticker on the truck says 4841lbs payload. I'm not sure but I think each tire can handle around 2500lbs in dually configuration.

So, no, I know I won't have a camper with three slides, etc. The Northern Lite 10-2EX Limited Edition weight 3360lbs and it would satisfy our needs - no slides.


Lol. No it doesn’t. Well it might right now but that’s a 2 ton camper, full ready to camp.


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Grit dog wrote:

joebedford wrote:

The sticker on the truck says 4841lbs payload. I'm not sure but I think each tire can handle around 2500lbs in dually configuration.

So, no, I know I won't have a camper with three slides, etc. The Northern Lite 10-2EX Limited Edition weight 3360lbs and it would satisfy our needs - no slides.


Lol. No it doesn’t. Well it might right now but that’s a 2 ton camper, full ready to camp.


Even if it is his truck's good for 5000lbs any day of the week, probably even 3 tons. Another 750lbs tongue weight for the motorcycle trailer... He's fine.


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Grit dog wrote:

Lol. No it doesn’t. Well it might right now but that’s a 2 ton camper, full ready to camp.
Sorry, I don't understand your comment.

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joebedford wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Lol. No it doesn’t. Well it might right now but that’s a 2 ton camper, full ready to camp.
Sorry, I don't understand your comment.


I think what he means is that even though the dry weight of the camper is 3300 ish pounds, wet and loaded it will be over 4000. You'll probably be over on payload with the tongue weight but maybe ok on rear axle weight. I know you didn't ask, but since this is RV.net, the place to go for unsolicited advice, what is it about hauling the big 5er you don't like? I imagine hauling a 4K camper pulling a 5K trailer will be about as fatiguing as pulling your 5er. If you are lacking for horsepower in the hills, for the same money as buying a new slide in camper and enclosed trailer, you could trade in the 2011 on a new Dmax dually (or other brand if you're so inclined) with a fair bit more horsepower and torque that will pull the schnot out of your trailer.

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mkirsch wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

joebedford wrote:

The sticker on the truck says 4841lbs payload. I'm not sure but I think each tire can handle around 2500lbs in dually configuration.

So, no, I know I won't have a camper with three slides, etc. The Northern Lite 10-2EX Limited Edition weight 3360lbs and it would satisfy our needs - no slides.


Lol. No it doesn’t. Well it might right now but that’s a 2 ton camper, full ready to camp.


Even if it is his truck's good for 5000lbs any day of the week, probably even 3 tons. Another 750lbs tongue weight for the motorcycle trailer... He's fine.


For sure. I agree. Truck is fine for what he’s planning. Said the same as you on the previous page. Just didn’t want him thinking he was basically getting a camper that was 1000lbs lighter than it actually is.

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rjstractor wrote:

joebedford wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

Lol. No it doesn’t. Well it might right now but that’s a 2 ton camper, full ready to camp.
Sorry, I don't understand your comment.


I think what he means is that even though the dry weight of the camper is 3300 ish pounds, wet and loaded it will be over 4000. You'll probably be over on payload with the tongue weight but maybe ok on rear axle weight. I know you didn't ask, but since this is RV.net, the place to go for unsolicited advice, what is it about hauling the big 5er you don't like? I imagine hauling a 4K camper pulling a 5K trailer will be about as fatiguing as pulling your 5er. If you are lacking for horsepower in the hills, for the same money as buying a new slide in camper and enclosed trailer, you could trade in the 2011 on a new Dmax dually (or other brand if you're so inclined) with a fair bit more horsepower and torque that will pull the schnot out of your trailer.


While I’ve never pulled a RV 5ver I’ve pulled plenty of GN trailers in the same range. And plenty of miles with a similar size TC and different similar size/weight trailers. On hitch extensions. I’d take the TC/smaller trailer combo all day long. Not even a close comparison.

And not even considering “how” it pulls, the combo is like 15’ shorter aft of the hitch.
Although, also correct, new 10sp L5P will out pull an old 6sp LML pretty handily.

I’ll see your new truck and raise you a sawzall and a tuner though! For FAR less money than a new truck, some weight reduction under the truck, a nice custom 4’ straight up exhaust system and a tuner from Canada will make it pull like a new one.

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I had a 2004 Ram before the Silverado. I loved that truck but when I changed 5er in 2011, it couldn't handle the job. The Silverado was the only one of the big 3 that was rated for the new load in 2011. To that end, it handles the load quite well.

I don't know what the camper will feel like, but the cargo trailer on its own is easy.

I'm surprised that you would equate difficulty hauling the big 5er with camper and cargo trailer.

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I noticed a couple weeks ago that the scales were still on south of Ennis so I got my rolling weight fully loaded. It came in at 15,720 including the trailer but it was the lighter one with just the UTV on it. Your newer truck will not have any issues with something like an AF 990. Don't let the Weight Police here scare you like I did when I first started, these trucks are more than up to it. I worried for nothing for about a year over that.

I have found that we use the camper a lot for road trips even when not pulling anything, great for keeping ones sanity during family visits.

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I know air bags don't increase weight capacity but do you think I'll need them to keep my truck level? It settles about 2" with 3100 pound king pin weight.

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