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RobertRyan

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If truck manufacturers were serious about the TC market, they would bring back the camper special design where the axle sits far back in the frame with less overhang. The shift of the axle rearward would address much of the CG issues people experience when they hang too much weight off the rear. My Mammoth is tail heavy unless I have water in the fresh or gray tanks that sit forward of the axle. With my trailer, I use a WDH to restore 100% of the front axle weight. Once you do this long enough, you find ways to compensate for a less than ideal design. I suppose you could start with a 84" CA chassis cab and lop off the rear overhang, but now you are looking where your primary fuel will be carried...

Something more inline with an Expediton Camper. They can carry a substantial payload and can off road as much as a much small TC I think most TC manufactuers in the US would be reticient to do something to differrent as they might lose their cudtomer base

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^Huh??
Do you even camp?


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jimh406 wrote:



Back to my first post, I'd rather not have a long overhang since that weight is all behind the rear axle. Based on what others have posted here, long TCs can actually take weight off the front axle. I don't think putting all of the weight on the rear axle can ever be.a good thing.


That all depends on if the center of gravity is proper for that truck also. if it is at or ahead of the rear axle that weight will act like it is all at that point and should be good. If it is behind the rear axle, then you could have issues. they don't mark that on campers because it isn't important [emoticon] I have a 10.5 foot camper and it adds 150 lbs to my front axle with the center of gravity 1" ahead of my rear axle.

The only disadvantage I have found would be if I were 4X4ing in big moguls I may tag the ground on an uphill transition but that's for me to know the limits of my rig.

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RobertRyan wrote:

Bedlam wrote:

If truck manufacturers were serious about the TC market, they would bring back the camper special design where the axle sits far back in the frame with less overhang. The shift of the axle rearward would address much of the CG issues people experience when they hang too much weight off the rear. My Mammoth is tail heavy unless I have water in the fresh or gray tanks that sit forward of the axle. With my trailer, I use a WDH to restore 100% of the front axle weight. Once you do this long enough, you find ways to compensate for a less than ideal design. I suppose you could start with a 84" CA chassis cab and lop off the rear overhang, but now you are looking where your primary fuel will be carried...

Something more inline with an Expediton Camper. They can carry a substantial payload and can off road as much as a much small TC I think most TC manufactuers in the US would be reticient to do something to differrent as they might lose their cudtomer base


This is not a truck camper!
https://www.globalxvehicles.com/
This is called an expedition vehicle by the manufacturer.
https://earthroamer.com/
These are truck campers. You keep comparing apples to oranges when you talk about your idea of a truck camper. trailers and overland vehicles are missing the most important aspect of off roading in a truck camper and that would be the truck...
https://gearjunkie.com/motors/best-truck-campers

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Grit dog wrote:

^Huh??
Do you even camp?

Yes do you?

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Joe wrote:

This is not a truck camper!
https://www.globalxvehicles.com/
This is called an expedition vehicle by the manufacturer.
https://earthroamer.com/
These are truck campers. You keep comparing apples to oranges when you talk about your idea of a truck camper. trailers and overland vehicles are missing the most important aspect of off roading in a truck camper and that would be the truck...
https://gearjunkie.com/motors/best-truck-campers

No Expedition Vehicles have the bodies attached to the truck. A TC has a demountable body. To Bedlam I said like an Expedition vehicle. All Terrain Warriors here who helped EarthCruiser here develop
Expedition Vehicles builds a TC version of of one of their Expedition Vehicles, they are Cabovers Trucks. Like Valhalla said th 3/4 to F550 type trucks are useless Off Road. EarthRoamer is as limited to extreme Off Road as much as a Mammoth. Turning circle would be enormous as well
If TC maker in the US was to make something similar people like you would think it was weird. In other words would not sell.
Earthcruiser is now helping GM develop an Extreme Off Road version of their EV Hummer. Come a long way since All Terrain Warriors helped them out

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Steve wrote:

The only disadvantage I have found would be if I were 4X4ing in big moguls I may tag the ground on an uphill transition but that's for me to know the limits of my rig.

In this case you do not have to worry. Still these would be too expensive as Expedition vehicles but TC's are also built on them Video below
Eathcruiser extreme Off Road
It can do that as an Expedition vehicle here it is as a TC. No you cannot buy them in the US. Truck payload is 10,000lbs GVWR goes to 15,500lb
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Off Road and extended wheelbase as an Expedition Vehicle
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RobertRyan wrote:

Steve wrote:

The only disadvantage I have found would be if I were 4X4ing in big moguls I may tag the ground on an uphill transition but that's for me to know the limits of my rig.

In this case you do not have to worry. Still these would be too expensive as Expedition vehicles but TC's are also built on them Video below
Eathcruiser extreme Off Road
It can do that as an Expedition vehicle here it is as a TC. No you cannot buy them in the US. Truck payload is 10,000lbs GVWR goes to 15,500lb
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Off Road and extended wheelbase as an Expedition Vehicle
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Ok, now those look like truck campers.
Does lance and Palimino have a factory in Australia? Or are they shipped over? If they are produced in Australia do they have different specs? Does the first pic of the truck you posted that is for sale lift off a flat bed. Is that why you called it a truck camper? That would be where I got lost. I didn't think they would be completely different than American counter parts. I have seen videos of box like campers lifting off of flat beds from overseas.

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Joe wrote:

Ok, now those look like truck campers.
Does lance and Palimino have a factory in Australia? Or are they shipped over? If they are produced in Australia do they have different specs? Does the first pic of the truck you posted that is for sale lift off a flat bed. Is that why you called it a truck camper? That would be where I got lost. I didn't think they would be completely different than American counter parts. I have seen videos of box like campers lifting off of flat beds from overseas.

Joe to answer your questions
(1) Lance died several years ago here. Palomino is a very cheap bargain basement outfit. There are roughly 15 manufacturers of TC's in Australia
(2) we call Truck Campers Slideon's in Australia. I am using TC so you kniw what I am talking about.
(3) TC's are similar and very different to what you get in the US
(4) They use flat beds here not Pickup Beds
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RobertRyan wrote:

Joe wrote:

Ok, now those look like truck campers.
Does lance and Palimino have a factory in Australia? Or are they shipped over? If they are produced in Australia do they have different specs? Does the first pic of the truck you posted that is for sale lift off a flat bed. Is that why you called it a truck camper? That would be where I got lost. I didn't think they would be completely different than American counter parts. I have seen videos of box like campers lifting off of flat beds from overseas.

Joe to answer your questions
(1) Lance died several years ago here. Palomino is a very cheap bargain basement outfit. There are roughly 15 manufacturers of TC's in Australia
(2) we call Truck Campers Slideon's in Australia. I am using TC so you kniw what I am talking about.
(3) TC's are similar and very different to what you get in the US
(4) They use flat beds here not Pickup Beds
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