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I'm a littel partial to Grand Design, not endorsing them, but my experience. We are on our second. have thought about upgrading again, buuuuutttttt, i am not a fan of the new steps or the on demand water heater. The floor plan we have, 337RLS, is great for us, yeah as in all units, there are things we wish were a littel different. But might I say, just keep using yours for a while, keep looking at units whereever yo may find yourself, keep talking to people, get there use types into conversaiton, compare it wiht your and your plans. Then find the floor plan you like or want, when the moment is right, it will happen.
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jffnkrn wrote:I'm a littel partial to Grand Design, not endorsing them, but my experience. We are on our second. have thought about upgrading again, buuuuutttttt, i am not a fan of the new steps or the on demand water heater. The floor plan we have, 337RLS, is great for us, yeah as in all units, there are things we wish were a littel different. But might I say, just keep using yours for a while, keep looking at units whereever yo may find yourself, keep talking to people, get there use types into conversaiton, compare it wiht your and your plans. Then find the floor plan you like or want, when the moment is right, it will happen.
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I'm with you on both counts, Jeff. I hate the stuipd solid steps and, as boondockers, am not a fan of the tankless water heaters (though I've not had experience with them). I've read about too many people not having hot water when running on the pump =and= people using a =lot= more water.
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laknox wrote:
I'm with you on both counts, Jeff. I had the stuipd solid steps and, as boondockers, am not a fan of the tankless water heaters (though I've not had experience with them). I've read about too many people not having hot water when running on the pump =and= people using a =lot= more water.
Lyle
We've just spent our first 5 nights in the new rig. We have the newer flip style steps that help knock the dirt off of them before you raise them into the doorway. Worse than dirt, if they're wet they bring that water in with them.
And so far, we are not a fan of the tankless water heater. It does seem to use a lot more water and we boondock a lot. I'm sure we'll figure out a solution.
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Chuck5395 wrote:laknox wrote:
I'm with you on both counts, Jeff. I had the stuipd solid steps and, as boondockers, am not a fan of the tankless water heaters (though I've not had experience with them). I've read about too many people not having hot water when running on the pump =and= people using a =lot= more water.
Lyle
We've just spent our first 5 nights in the new rig. We have the newer flip style steps that help knock the dirt off of them before you raise them into the doorway. Worse than dirt, if they're wet they bring that water in with them.
And so far, we are not a fan of the tankless water heater. It does seem to use a lot more water and we boondock a lot. I'm sure we'll figure out a solution.
-Chuck
IF ONLY the mfrs would give their customers this thing called OPTIONS!
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ill chime in again.
as far as me, maybe an old timer, set in my ways, been there done that, etc.
I don't have a problem with the new fangled stuff if the manufactures would just let some of it be an opotion. They could charge a few xtra $$$'s as needed, but should be up to us as the consumer what we want.
The water heater for us would be an issue, we turn on in the morning, let it run until hot, turn it off, she gets a shower, does dishes and evening time dishes and i get a shower, never ran out of hot water. Steps, ugh as i wouldn't be able to get tehm down in some parking lots, at home or they may be uneven as heck boon docking in some of the areas we go. as the youngns would say, just saying.
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As for the steps, I recently came across the Torklift Glowstep Uprising Step. It replaces the stupid solid steps, so you at least can access your rig while in storage. They still fold inside the door, meaning trash and water can get inside, but they at least eliminate one of the major problems with the stupid solid steps. If only the mfrs would offer these as an option... Yeah, not likely.
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We have a 2013 Heartland Sundance XLT which is light and gone up to the pacific nw with it and Colorado a few times. Worked out well for us. It is a rear kitchen with OA legnth of 29 feet. I think what was light back then could be "well built" compared to the later models especially the Covid specials. We were on the cusp of buying a new one but decided to keep old faithfull and run it. Even if we need to put a roof on it we would still be dollars ahead.
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Curly2001 wrote:We have a 2013 Heartland Sundance XLT which is light and gone up to the pacific nw with it and Colorado a few times. Worked out well for us. It is a rear kitchen with OA legnth of 29 feet. I think what was light back then could be "well built" compared to the later models especially the Covid specials. We were on the cusp of buying a new one but decided to keep old faithfull and run it. Even if we need to put a roof on it we would still be dollars ahead.
Just my two cents.....Curly
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I don't think these alternative steps would be around if they would have installed quality solid steps like I have on my DRV.
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The new fangled uprising steps are popular not because of design or function.
They are popular because they allow flexibility in the manufacturing process.
The new steps eliminate the stair pocket which allows the same frame to be used with several different models vs. having a fixed door pocket location, which makes the frame more model specific.
I agree tankless heaters and the new steps are deal breakers for me.
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