hoytauler
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The pin load is the same with sidewinder as with a standard pin box. Over the axle, no difference, plus it is maintenance free unlike some high end slider hitches. If you have not pulled with a Sidewinder you don't know what your missing. Sidewinder was introduced to the RV industry in Sept 06' RVIA.
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kedanie
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Our 5er came standard from the factory with a sidewinder hitch. I was very skeptical at first but now I believe. Works great, backs better than a shorter trailer with no sway problems. Going down the road it feels like a normal extended pin box. If we were to sell the trailer, it would just stay on the rig just as would any other pin box.
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smkettner
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hoytauler wrote: Sidewinder was introduced to the RV industry in Sept 06' RVIA. I picked up my SuperGlide in Nov 05 so no Sidewinder at that time. I definately would have considered it.
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bobandvicki
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- towed over 50,000 miles over the last 4 years from Florida to Alaska over some of the toughest roads imagineable and NEVER had a problem with my sidewinder - no sway and have yet to hear that it caused any structural damage to anyone's rig - have only read posts from those who said it might but they don't have one - those I have personally met on the road who do have one have been very pleased - base your opinion on those who actually use a sidewinder - I have never towed with a pullrite superglide so thereforeI cannot voice an opinion on it - try and find people who have experiences with both -good luck in your choice - Bob
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mfoster711
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You opened a can of worms in case you didn't notice. For some reason, there are people in these forums that continually want to talk down the Sidewinder just because they don't understand the physics involved. They spread FUD for no reason. The Sidewinder is no different than any extended pin box as far as sway or stress on the frame. I am SURE somebody will quote me and tell you why I am an idiot.
That being said, to answer your question, side winder and pullrite superglide are both fine options. If you ask ACTUAL OWNERS of either product you will find that they all have high praise for their product. If you already have a regular 5th wheel hitch you can save money by buying the Sidewinder. If you are starting from scratch then a Sidewinder+regular hitch costs about the same as a Superglide. In the end, go with which ever product YOU feel comfortable with and you will be happy either way.
By the way, I have a Sidewinder and love it!
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SteveRankin
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glazier wrote:smkettner wrote:http://www.etrailer.com/faq-sidewinder.aspx
I have the Superglide that works perfect. I can see from the above link the sidewinder might be as good or better solution. My only concern would be if the pin was extended to check with the OEM and see if they approve.
While the pivot point may be moved back the load on the axle is still same position over the axle. Any side force (sway) would seem to be moved back some but nothing like a TT. The sidewinder might be no longer than a factory extended pin with no addition leverage on the frame.
Very good post. You are correct the weight is still placed at the axel, only the pivot point is back.
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It is the location of the pivot point that affects the stability of the rig. When the pivot point is directly over the rear axle--as in a normal 5th wheel--the trailer has no leverage on the rear of the truck so all the yaw forces of the trailer are absorbed by the tires. Hence the reason why dually trucks are more stable than SRW trucks.
However, when the pivot point is moved aft of the tow vehicle axle, the trailer now has leverage on the truck, and it is that leverage that gives the trailer the ability to affect the yaw of the truck.
Just because a driver hasn't felt any sway yet with the Sidewinder doesn't mean that it's not out there waiting for Murphy. There are a whole slew of guys on the TT forum that swear they've never felt sway with their TT, yet I doubt anyone on the 5th wheel forum would agree that a TT is as stable as a 5th wheel.
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fishbarned
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8' bed? I just got a new truck with a 8' bed and I'm very happy i did. Now there will be no more nonsense with the 6' bed. I have hit the truck 3 times and it was a constant stress. I had a slider hitch but the only time i went to slid it it wouldn't budge. now i will never think about it again. Cheers
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hammer21661
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Yeah, Get an 8' bed and you won't have to worry about it. Correct me if i am wrong but when you back up with a side winder won't it have less stress then a regular pin box. cause you are eliminating 20 inches of leverage when you get 90 degre backing up or pulling ahead.
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My truck is a LWB and I still use the Sidewinder because it came on the trailer from the factory. To be honest it still works great because it allows me to turn sharper and back sharper than our old trailer with the extended pin box. Plus once we are setup I turn it sideways and don't have to worry about someone running into it when walking around the trailer.
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To the OP,
As you can see by the responses here, there are supporters of both routes for you hitch question. Still, there has not been one user of a Sidewinder who is not completely satisfied with it. Believe it, if there is someone unsatisfied out there, he would be complaining. as said by many, both good products, your money and your choice.
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